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Purpose We meet monthly for dinner on the second Monday of the month to discuss climate science and zero-carbon energy engineering. We feel that you can't be of much use as an environmentalist unless you are technically well-informed. Environmental problems are scientific problems, and how to solve them is an engineering question. If you are not technically well-informed, you will make inaccurate statements about science that are an embarrassment to the environmental movement, and the solutions you advocate will be ill-advised and/or counter-productive. So the purpose of these dinners is to create a space for informative discussion of climate science and zero-carbon energy engineering. Environmentalists who are scientifically poorly-informed have an infamous track record of making predictions (often dire) that do not materialize as scheduled, and advocating solutions that are poor engineering choices. |
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We will meet on the second Monday of every month from 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm at the Skylight Diner see (map) at the southwest corner of 9th Avenue and West 34th Street in Midtown Manhattan, within easy reach of the A/C/E & 7 subways, and a block away from LIRR and NJ Transit at Penn Station. The restaurant has a large menu with many cuisines and does separate checks for large groups, so everyone can pay with their own credit card.
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This Month's Topic: Environmentalism: Competing Visions For the Future
The traditional environmental movement often carried a deep suspicion of technology, industrial development, and economic growth. Many environmentalists opposed nuclear power, large infrastructure projects, suburban expansion, and much of the industrial economy itself. The movement accomplished important goals — cleaner air and water, preservation of wilderness, and reduced pollution — but it also helped create a vast regulatory structure that makes building almost anything in America extraordinarily difficult. The results are visible everywhere. The United States still lacks the extensive networks of bullet trains common across Europe and Asia. Major infrastructure projects routinely spend years or decades trapped in lawsuits, environmental reviews, and permitting battles before construction even begins. This creates a major contradiction for climate policy. Decarbonizing the economy requires building enormous amounts of new infrastructure: transmission lines, renewable energy, nuclear plants, geothermal systems, rail, mining, and energy storage. That would be difficult under any circumstances, but under the current permitting framework it becomes well-nigh impossible. As a result, some climate-focused organizations such as Citizens' Climate Lobby have begun advocating “permitting reform” to streamline some of these barriers so clean-energy infrastructure can actually be built. Environmentalism has also often projected a message of sacrifice: consume less, travel less, own less, and feel guilty about modern prosperity. Combined with an undercurrent of hostility toward many aspects of ordinary American life, this message has not been especially attractive to much of the public. A more successful environmental movement would present a vision of abundance instead — a future powered by cheap, clean energy and advanced technology. There are good reasons for optimism. Wind and solar power have become remarkably cheap, especially solar, whose costs continue to fall rapidly. Their main weakness is intermittency: the sun does not always shine and the wind does not always blow. Batteries remain extremely expensive for storing enough electricity to fully stabilize the entire grid for long periods. But not every industrial activity requires perfectly continuous operation. Some forms of energy-intensive manufacturing could simply run intermittently whenever renewable electricity is abundant and cheap. Hydrogen production, fertilizer manufacturing, aluminum refining, desalination, synthetic fuels, and other bulk industrial processes could ramp production up and down based on the availability of cheap energy. In many cases, stockpiling the manufactured products themselves would be far cheaper than storing vast amounts of electricity in batteries. Other technologies are promising as well. Next-generation nuclear reactors may eventually provide abundant low-carbon electricity with improved safety and potentially lower costs. Geothermal energy today is mostly limited to geologically favorable regions, but advances in deeper drilling technology could eventually make geothermal power available across much larger parts of the world. An optimistic climate politics would emphasize these possibilities: abundant clean energy, advanced industry, modern infrastructure, and rising prosperity. People are far more likely to support a future that promises abundance than one centered on guilt, austerity, and permanent limits. |
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| Organizer: Bill Chapman Cell: 212-810-0470 Email |